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Soundmanred

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why do you assholes keep bumping this shitty thread to the frontpage? it's taking up valuable pixels :colbert:
Cuz these mooks are the most biggest waste of time bias chumps you could ever debate with. You have mooks like these crybabys who flaunt out B.S bias lies that tigers are 2x bigger! Even the best of debaters I've seen on subject havent provided with any confromational evidence a tiger bigger than a lion by any significant margin that would have me belive weight would be a leverage. Whites are pretty much the only ones on the A&E channel Interventions that incorperates every drug known to man kind having cry baby familys sending there dope addict kids and siblings to rehab!
 

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http://books.google.com/books?id=Zl...+the+traveller&ie=ISO-8859-1&output=html_text

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Incredible detail historical art^ It would seem as it states most are britain co-finders/studyers/historians, but they are translated from Greek and Roman authors...
~Works of the British poets: Including translations from the Greek and Roman authors
John Sharpe, 1828
http://books.google.com/books?id=UI...a=X&ei=3uAGUc6eF8WUjAKem4BY&ved=0CEEQ6AEwBDgK
 
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Holy crap, I thought the Forum shut down? Maybe this Pc 2003 old gal is givin way... Hold on girl...hold on.


lol
 

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Dang, it turns out that the person who was goig to translate this graph from Portugese to english was only 13 years old...lol...not that I dought he couldent do it, its just I would wage a little older person to translate it for better accuratecy in the language....


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We can see by he pics who should be the usual victo, but for clarity an creds a translation in detail would be appreciated.
 

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Cuz these mooks are the most biggest waste of time bias chumps you could ever debate with. You have mooks like these crybabys who flaunt out B.S bias lies that tigers are 2x bigger! Even the best of debaters I've seen on subject havent provided with any confromational evidence a tiger bigger than a lion by any significant margin that would have me belive weight would be a leverage. Whites are pretty much the only ones on the A&E channel Interventions that incorperates every drug known to man kind having cry baby familys sending there dope addict kids and siblings to rehab!


What was that, a quote or a mental break down?

XD
 

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Just found these a few seconds ago...

[giant piles of craziness]

shens. no way in fuck you just found this stuff a few seconds ago. it's in your file of insanity, sitting on your desktop. you just copy paste back to back to back whenever you have time from your "yanking up protected pants and ripping off whitey" business
 

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I like this one verse...Sir Mook comes up with a scheme of ways to impliment Bias, he laughs an says I have countless accounts of tigers killing lions from all different sources protatining to Rome...but then with one glance the sheer pathticness reveals its self to be nothing but a bias cry-baby who wants to label these sources as different occaisions, there was only one historical document ever recorded of a tiger winning in rome via=Creditable to a latin Poet, his name Martial:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial

which was in his epigrams recorded in latin, translated into english he mentions a tiger killing a lion, he does not use the words everytime...or invariably won or any jazz that hints a multiple account impliment...just one.

AN epigram, as its etymology denotes, was originally
merely an inscription, such as is put on a statue or a
monument, a temple, or a triumphal arch. 1 But in
process of time it came to mean ;i short poem dealing
with some .person, thing, or incident which the writer
thinks worthy of observation and record, and by
which he seeks to attract attention in the same way
as a passer-by would be attracted by an inscription
on a physical object. "

Martials Epigrams...
http://archive.org/stream/martialepigrams01martiala/martialepigrams01martiala_djvu.txt


{2008}
Gladiators: violence and spectacle in ancient Rome

Martial points out the irony of a bear being stopped not by
weapons, but by getting stuck in bird lime, a sticky substance put on ...
A tiger kills a lion
http://books.google.com/books?id=qN...a=X&ei=YKYIUaqdPKqTiALtjoGQDQ&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAQ

{2007}
1759: The Year Britain Became Master of the World
Frank McLynn
Francis James McLynn, FRHistS, FRGS (born 29 August 1941) — known as Frank McLynn — is a British author

Ancient romans in the arena the tiger would win such a fight everytime
http://books.google.com/books?id=if...=ISO-8859-1&output=html&source=gbs_navlinks_s

First of all this Frank Mclynn is not roman, hes bristish which lowers his credability (as yuku crys about british were sole hiers in lying about romans when they said the britaish was bias for the lion Huh!)second of all this guy quoted the medical times who in verse was quote-ing none other than Martial XD XD
You know what, I'll set in motion to get this historians e-mail that way we can here from Frank himself an document that he was merely quoting a passage of Martial who unbeknowsnt to Mclynn dident use the words everytime.

{1984}
P. Papinius Statius, Silvae Book II: A Commentary
Harm-Jan Van Dam
BRILL, 1984 -
Because mart (Martial) a tamed tiger killing a wild lion.
http://books.google.com/books?id=VK...a=X&ei=4KgIUcCiPKOriQKXjYHQDA&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAA

{1885}
Natural history sketches among the carnivora:
wild and domesticated
Arthur Nicols L. Upcott Gill,
To this may be added the testimony of Martial, from actual observation of the contests in the arenas, where the tigers always killed their antagonists, the lions.
http://books.google.com/books?id=_g...a=X&ei=ua4IUbeyA-_DiwLr84DgAg&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAA

{1871}
THE MEDICAL TIMES AND GAZETTE
In the records of martial it says the tiger always beat the lion.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_GjbTgi4gACA/TPPS1O95NzI/AAAAAAAAAJg/gnCTEHHTneY/s320/zzzzzzzzzzzz.JPG
Taken from this book…
http://books.google.com/books?id=T5...a=X&ei=EHLqUMfMCsKviAL99ID4Ag&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAQ
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An heres a home run smash...
An it shows on further studys of the records of martial that the tiger killing a lion incident was more so a programed fight meaning staged for the tiger to have won via leverages like the movie gladiator when they stabed Maximus, or unless you want me to belive that a single un-armed lady can kill a lion too as stated in the same passage an verse from Martial…
http://books.google.com/books?id=Bi...a=X&ei=ohZmUPzVD6uujAL354HYDQ&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAA

The funnyiest thing is he labled them like this...

#1 tiger kills lion in rome
#2 tigers always won
#3 tigers invaribly won

ect ect with a few more of others just quote-ing martial an number labeled each book as if another tiger killed a lion was witnnessed than mixed them around at-least 100 times by not showing the source an cutting out the links source of alibi, XD XD Martial the Root source of all those alibies whos merely quoting his passages of his epigrams via=Poems are only twisting his words to fancy some out of this world B.S manipulating, either that or they them selves dident read any of martials records accurately because each books bio has it on of the authors...none had a Greek, Roman, latin heritage, they were all europeans an only of the late 18th an early 19th century, in fact some of them are still alive today...which in time I'll see if they still have open convo's on the internet so maybe confronting the source will be intresting...cant wait. ^_^

So its stands as shown...
Theres only one account of a tiger winning in rome/staged
 
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http://animalsversesanimals.yuku.com


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Almost all of your content come from this. Sometimes literally copying and pasting entire articles.

VOTE FOR BAN!
 

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http://animalsversesanimals.yuku.com


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Almost all of your content come from this. Sometimes literally copying and pasting entire articles.

VOTE FOR BAN!

Hey genius...you got the wrong site, thats the green yuku my data is on the yellow one called wildanimalelite, which I'm not actually banned from there stated by the owners of the site Bold champ an schama, which there second in command mod=P tigris is like you a bias crybaby...so by having him erase the data I put together I chose not to go back.


I stated multiple times on everyother page if its to much info then the mods an admins can tell me an I'd be more than happy to remove most an keep it short.

This thread is merely in the Off topic part of the forum, so what bothers you so much cry-baby? I actually like this forum alot because of its over-all appeal, super awesome forum with cool threads an tech wise info I can catch up on, because I was getting a new com later...so since your the only one trollin...you know (never on topic)...the verdict should go for you to get banned, cry-baby.
 

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I cant see what you got there, my safari crashed so I cant read yuku anymore...but if you'd like, copy an paste it onto here...because if my memory serves me right, your probably only going to be linking to the stuff thats said all my data is fake........Right?

Yet he provided no proof just like what you do basicly...cry an cry and cry, an I mean Kingthropod why dont you go an ask everyone there who that is...he goes by the name

Kingthropod
W.C
Wolverines claws
Jamesredhouse
Jamesredhouse 2
Jamesredhouse 3
Jackjacksonj
P tigris 7
lionslifeme
Captain asshole
Justreal
p tigris

and on an on an on, of fake names leading to him talking to himself hes the biggest loser there dont take my word for it ask them...thats funny you should mention I got owned, its obvious you dident read or research any of it, because he claimed they were fake because of being british, when I recently updated more sources showing they all went to rome...so buu huu cry baby. All my data still stands as facts. You can tell that mook too that he wrote over things that said copywrite on it...a huge law breaking No No...cha-ching 0_0 $$$ law-suitsXD XD XD But he already knows that...its only goin to be in time since I get a new Computer an I can document all that he did too which I already promised him...XD XD Karma is a bitch.
 
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Wow, so true.
Lying, trolling, spamming, he's done it all.

Pfwa ha ha haa, nice one wonder twin, why dont you copy an paste it an I can show you how pathetic his attempt is, but ahhh, I know you wont, you'd just belive some douche bag who uses his I pad to write fake on things an to actually think your that galluble is hilarious, but its not like its a shocker all you 3 mooks did was cry all the way threw this thread when someone posted something of credability of a tiger losing....sad. XD

You dont even know how much this hurts me laughing XD XD XD In to the parasite Kingtheropods life style revolves around XD XD XD That guys old site use to be here...

http://www.google.com/search?ie=ISO...+webs+lion+vs+tiger+historical+records+&gbv=1

You see ^ the one that says jackjacksonj and freewebs?

Because of me showing how he photo shoped some accounts an edited alot of his 367 B.S content...let me ask you something...is his site still up? No! XD XD XD XD Thats because I showed him the infringements he was doing could cost him his life literaly, he doced over 100 copy written things from hundreds of sites, why do you think he has so may alias names now? XD XD XD He just lables fake an gives a bullshit opinion with any substantial proof.

You wanna see some of the stuff he faked?

No Probz...

#4 Jackjacksonj site had claimed he had 367 account’s I mixed and matched all the account’s and he had only 30 that mean’s he leid on 330 account’s, which I posted the answer sheet you can go threw on this very page also on his site I left all the one’s he lied on in his guest book and blog. that tiger did NOT win sixty battles, and the pic does not state he kiled them. here is the FULL quote;

Public Opinion: A Comprehensive Summary of the Press Throughout the World on ... - Page 760
1899

At least, fifty or sixty battles were fought victoriously by him with nearly as
many different seals who coveted his position ; and when the fighting season ...

and, here is the link, in case you don`t believe me;
http://books.google.com/books?um=1&...,+at+least+fifty+or+sixty+battles+were+fought
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You see ^^^ that’s how he merged 2 different article’s to make this…
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj19/Tigersandme/a3316a18a1f788c7a40c388da2a372e026f.jpg
That’s why after the word’s there are three dot’s like this {…} showing they are not in the same article which this is the article he changed 1 account into 60 from, here
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c227/snider_/ay2.jpg


Ahhh ha ha ha ha ha XD XD Thats the same dumbass that made these...

who said there was 6 lion’s used on 1 tiger Huh! Really 6, give me a break, here it is…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GXoKnG4ksY
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Here’s a person graphing all the tiger’s showing just like a human’s finger print, no tiger has the same stripe’s, showing there was indeed 3 lion’s vs 3 tiger’s like the real movie’s narrirator said.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBdpiIxMnMM

Pfwa ha ha ha XD XE

Oh what was that you said? So true, yup my data all are true an I aint taking it down...why? Because they are facts dumb dumb, him on the other hand closed 4 of his main sites because he broke laws in the Illistration world, (what a pussy) while me...I edit nothing, I tamper with nothing...I present everything as is.
But sing on bro of your cry-baby wants...the data goes no where, an when I get another Com..It will intriplelicate while his has already been broken down an demolished.

XD
 
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XD No dought thats my old data of him just labeling fake like some juiced up 6 year old going ape with crayons an writing Fake Fake Fake on everything XD XD XD C'mon am I right? Confirm to me that thats all hes doing.

Because if thats all it takes to disprove something than 6th graders with crayons should stay away from museums an realist...that can get ya hurt mate. XD

Why dont You In your own words explain to me step by step how anything was disproved
(Go ahead quote him if you wanna look retarded).
I'll start up the engine an leave the car reving on this one, because besides those petty crybaby Attempts to disprove of the data, it was in its beggining stages, notice I had very little information to spare on its credability, because I dident think I'd run into the wicked white witch of the east...XD XD
My data is constantly evolving in its credability department. Thanks to this awesome site an tolerance to trolls like you I was once again able to spare some time on the subject an increase my datas durability...so let me hear from you in how exactly have these been disproved...

Again I high-lighted the implimations that show they are from none other than the Roman Empire and also added in alot of newer sources to make its credability stronger than steel...

{Roman Venatios}

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Rabbi Ken Spiro
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Jewish remnet's preserved scripture's translated to English on a history of Rome threw the jewish eye's...

“Next, the arena was lowered to feature combat between them as lions tore apart tigers, an went up against bears, croc’s leopards against wolves. It goes without saying that the Romans had never heard of animal rights.”

In pursuit of an answer to the question of what would constitute a perfect world, author Ken Spiro questioned more than 1,500 people of various backgrounds and religions. His findings revealed six core elements: Respect for human life; peace and harmony; justice and equality; education; family; and social responsibility. He then set off on a journey to find out why these were such common goals across cultural, economic, social and racial lines, and in the process, traced the history of the development of world religions, values and ethics.

As a rabbi, he paid particular attention to how Judaism impacted, and was influenced by, the course of these developments. The result is a highly readable and well-documented book about the origins of values and virtues in Western civilization as influenced by the Greeks, Romans, Christians, Muslims and, most significantly, the Jews.
~Ken Spiro; WorldPerfect Simcha Press, Sep 1, 2002 - 400 pages
http://kenspiro.com/articles.php
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Rome Italy, Lion killing tiger Historical artifact 17th-18th century...
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http://www.galerieheim.fr/oeuvre-details3.php?id_oeuvre=116&lng=2
This ^ Exhibition was organized by the Napoleonic authorities in the Capitol in Rome.

^Born in Bohemia, Johan Wenzel Peter made his artistic career in Rome . There, he became the most popular animalist painter of his time. In the villa Borghese he painted frescoes of over 160 animals and participated in the decoration of Palazzo Chigi and Palazzo Altieri. At the beginning of the XIXth century, Peter enjoyed an international fame. After his death, pope Gregory XVI purchased eleven works still in his workshop, among which was the monumental Garden of Eden (Vatican Museums)
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The Memoirs of Cleopatra
Margaret George
was born in Nashville, Tennessee. Her father joined the U.S. Foreign Service when she was four, and thus she lived all over the world—Taiwan, ]Israel, and Germany—before she was thirteen. She was exposed early to historical sites and learned that legends might have a historical basis, attending school in Jaffa, Israel, where Jonah set sail (en route to meeting the whale) and living on the Rhine in Germany across from the Drachenfels, where Siegfried of the Nibelungenlied killed the dragon.

She graduated from Tufts University with a B.A. and Stanford University with an M.A. co-majoring in biological science and English literature. She worked as a science writer for several years at the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Maryland. Since then she has lived in El Salvador and Sweden, and now calls Madison, Wisconsin, home.

“They took on tigers, bulls, and wild boars. Usually the lion won. page 284” {BOOK}
books

http://books.google.com/books?id=aM...a=X&ei=MyOLUM_0HsGuigKhg4DAAg&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAA
[Yes a novel, but still from a historian]
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Rome~ Lair of the lion that mangled a tiger 16th century
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~Carl Borromäus Andreas Ruthart
Died in Rome L’Aqulia
Born in the Holy Roman Empire. of the German Nation, Carl Borromäus Andreas Ruthart travelled to Italy very early on. His trace can be found in Rome and Venice between 1652 and 1659. After finishing his apprenticeship, he came to work in Antwerp in order to perfect his knowledge.
After going into the Church, he continued to paint a great number of profane subjects threw life held experinces such as extensive hunting scenes or animals fighting. It was only late in life, after retiring to a convent in the Abruzzo region, that Ruthart dedicated himself to celebrating the life of hermits and saints at prayer.

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Martin Seyer's dissertation Vienna University
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~Martin Seyer's dissertation (synopsis), Vienna University.
Martin Seyer is a native Viennese archaeologist and historian who has been lecturing and leading groups in his city and abroad for many years. Deeply knowledgeable about all aspects of Vienna, Martin possesses a broad perspective and is able to make connections between his hometown and the wider European world.

It is generally assumed that around 80-100 AD the Asian lion had become extinct in Greece and in the rest of Europe. In Western-Asia they remained widespread for the time being. In the Holy Land lions disappeared during the Crusades. In Pakistan the Asian lion was exterminated in 1810, in Turkey in 1870. In Iraq the last lion died in 1918 and in Iran (Persia) the last Asian lion was spotted by railway workers in 1942.

Today the Asian lion remains only in Gir Forest, Gujarat, India. In 1900 the population of the Asian lion in Gir had dwindled to a meager 20 survivors. Thanks to protection the numbers in Gir have risen to today's standards of 202-290 animals. The Asian lion is slightly smaller than its well-known African cousin. A distinct feature is that the ears of Asian lions are always visible, while those of African male lions tend to be covered by the longer manes. (You can verify this by checking Alexander's lion mosaic.) Of African lions an approximate 30,000 still roam in the wild.

Another subspecies very closely related to the Asian lion - the Barbary lion or Panthera leo leo - became extinct in the wild in 1922 (in Morocco). This Barbary lion had been the dominant animal in the blood sports of the Roman arenas. Sulla had 100 lions killed during a festival in 90 BC. Pompey managed to have 400 lions butchered in 55 BC, as would Julius Caesar a few years later. Figures kept rising. Emperor Titus had a grand total of 5,000 animals killed during a single festival and Trajan surpassed all with 11,000 slaughtered animals during one event. Substantial numbers of these victims must have been lions. Some lions in Rabat zoo, Morocco, have recently been identified as Barbary lions (in 1974), though they are not 'flawless' specimens and a breeding programme has not yet produced very convincing results.

http://www.contexttravel.com/city/vienna/tour-guides
http://www.pothos.org/content/index.php?page=lions

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#6 Tiger territory, A site dedicated of information to the tiger has studyed the Roman history of tiger's which is on lairweb.com has stated tiger's were reluctant to enter combat as much as lion's greeted foe's in the arena, also proven in same concept of everland's video's how male lion's show high agression at time's an drive off tiger's proclaiming there natrual dominant trait's.
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w25/atrox_photo/nuevo/roma.jpg
http://www.lairweb.org.nz/tiger/
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#7.Roman Royal Athena of a lion with a death grip on a tiger
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It is quite common for the seller of a artifact to not give details for they are the average person finding an posting what they are trying to sell, but it is quite understandble that some lions maintain there spots as adults...as seen spots maintained as adult hood by Simba the lion...
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an you can see there is a configuration of a mane so its more so a lion which upoun deeming winners threw its story they usually (Romans) put who was the victor of the combat on the top which you can clearly see the lions head in-twining down.

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Adolph Hausrath
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(13 January 1837 – 2 August 1909), a German theologian
Theology (from Greek ɶÉ?fiV meaning "God" and ɅfiÉ¡ÉÕV, -logy, meaning "study of") is the systematic and rational study of concepts of God and its influences and of the nature of religious truths, or the learned profession acquired by completing specialized training in religious studies, usually at a university or school of divinity or seminary.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theology

was born at Karlsruhe.

He was educated at Jena, Göttingen, Berlin and Heidelberg, where he became Privatdozent in 1861, professor extraordinary in 1867 and ordinary professor in 1872. He was a disciple of the Tübingen school and a strong Protestant.

“The amphitheatre had grown so still, that the clear melody of the flute was distinctly audible over the whole vast space. As soon as the disturbance ceased, the king of the beast, apparently untroubled by the new visitor, returned to his food. But the cowardice, peculiar to nocturnal beasts in the daylight, awoke in the tiger. He beheld in the shrieking multitude friends of the flute-player, and seeing the lion eating, seized the nearest piece of meat. But with a single bound the lion sprang forward, roaring loudly, to defend his property. The tiger’s claws clutched the lion’s and a fierce struggle began. The lion aimed terrible blows at his antagonist, which the tiger avoided with marvelous skill; the tiger’s teeth seized the lion’s mane, but at the same instant the latter tore off with his claws from the upper part of the tiger’s head half the skin, from which an eat and a broad trail of blood upon the sand, the tiger returned to his cage, where he howled piteously. The grating was raised, and soon only a faint whining was audible. Either the animal was dying, or the keepers had stupefied him to be able to cure him. The lion stood fiercely over his prey, which no one now disputed.”
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Continue-ation.......come on dum dum disprove them...your so confident in some whack job crybabay with a trigger finger with crayons, then tell me how these dont affiliate or orginate out of the Roman empire?

#9.
Roman sculpture of a lion bite-ing the throat of a tiger...
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~ In which again uploaders who sell the product who dosent have any affiliational knowledge of its oragin will have wrongfully name the antique, as there are thousands of Ebay uploaders who mistakenly name a lion a tiger or a tiger a lion, as any one who has vass knowledge of tiger an lion anatomys would know that its not a lioness but a tiger, for lionesses do not have tufts of hair on there cheeks,
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Only tigers of both female an male do as shown on the sculpture the cat the lion is bite-ing has tufts of hair via= not lioness but a Tiger.
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Lost Atlantis Or the Great Deluge of All lion dfeats tiger

And slew before their wond'ring sight, A wild beast conquered in the fight. A tiger who confronting stood And from this lion sought for blood ; But in this sanguinary strife The tiger sacrificed his life. While with flesh torn from slaughtered prey, ...
http://books.google.com/books?id=Vw...a=X&ei=1Y8IUOuPJqrq2AXKwcTPBw&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAQ
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Statue near the coloiseum in Nepal of a lion over comeing a tiger...
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KfXm6QzlO...AApQ/m_sqELU4ZGk/s1600-h/lion+statue+cope.jpg
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The lion mangles in his lair the tiger of the east of Armenia

http://books.google.com/books?id=j8...a=X&ei=MnQGUJaIHKGQ2QWN7PW_BQ&ved=0CCQQ6AewAA
~The Century, Volume 53 (Google eBook)
Scribner & Company, 1897
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Lion defeating tiger in combat Royal Emperyium of Rome...
Copper engraving by the well listed Italian artist Pietro Aquila (1650-1692 Rome).
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The vestal; or, A tale of Pompeii lion defeats tiger
Abstract:

Another mosaic in the House of the Faun , now badly damaged, showed a lion standing over a prostrate tiger.
Now," whispered Marcus, " the charm is broken ;" and at the same instant, the lion was seen bounding towards him with prodigious leaps. This time he swerved not as before from his course, and in an instant he was seen crouching quietly at the feet of the old man. A pause of astonishment held the spectators breathless for an instant; then "A miracle! a prodigy.!" burst from a thousand tongues, in every part of the amphitheatre.
The Emperor liked not this; and at a private signal from him a tiger was turned out upon the arena. The lion instantly recovered his fierceness—his loud, deep roar sounded like thunder—his mane bristled, and his eye flashed fire. The tiger came leaping towards them, but was instantly met by the ravenous lion. The contest was fierce, but it was short. The short snarl of the tiger was heard, mingling with the deep roar of the lion—now they appeared like two wrestlers erect, and closely embraced in their desperate struggles —and now rolling together upon the. sand, and half buried under the cloud that their struggles raised about them. There was sudden leaping back and forth, as each tried to gain some advantage in a new attack. Gradually however the contest seemed becoming less violent; and as the cloud of sand subsided, the lion

was seen standing over the prostrate tiger, his teeth buried in his throat, from which he was evidently draining the blood to satisfy his ravenous appetite; while the tiger, by the feebleness of his occasional struggles, which gradually became only convulsive efforts, and terminated in what appeared a mere spasmodic shiver of the limbs, showed how complete was the victory of his foe. The emperor would gladly have ordered fresh beasts to be turned in; but the clamor of the superstitious mob was so loud, that the emperor, who was unwilling to give offence to the people so soon upon his first visit, thought proper to consent. "It is the will of the gods—it is the will of the gods!" was shouted on every side. The Emperor yielded reluctantly to the will, not of the gods, but of the people, and the old man was removed unharmed.
The spectacle closed. The people rose—while the Emperor retired, and the confused hum and noise of a retiring crowd was heard.
For my own part, I involuntarily exclaimed, as the old man was led safely away "I thank the gods for this!"

http://books.google.com/books?id=dz...a=X&ei=Mn8IUcu3OsH3igKN3IGYCA&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAA
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Museums and Their Development:Lion kills tiger saving man
http://books.google.com/books?id=4I...a=X&ei=ZwgPUKSmNMuJiwLE74HIDw&ved=0CDkQ6AEwAw
~Museums and Their Development: The European Tradition, 1700-1900, Volume 3
Psychology Press, 1656 - Museums - 287 pages
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Facts and Details
Decapitating ostriches with crescent-headed arrows was a favorite trick at gladiator battles. The crowds cheered and roared with laughter as the ostrich continued to run around after its head was cut off. Bears usually defeated bulls. Packs of hounds easily dispatched deers. [Lions usually defeated tigers.] Not even a rhino could penetrate the hide of an elephant.
http://factsanddetails.com/world.php?itemid=2061&catid=56&subcatid=369
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Storia di David Lazzaretti,
Lion kills tiger an 6 other beast

You can use google trans;ate to translate it, or I'll do it later,
http://books.google.com/books?pg=PA...ie=ISO-8859-1&ots=l7uQE-uEp2&output=html_text
~ By Filippo Imperiuzzi, Davide Lazzaretti
Tipografia nuova, 1907 - 526 pages
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Latin artifact of a lion that killed a tiger
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Phaedrus (Greek: É>=Éø?ɬɜÉÕV), (c. 444 BC – 393 BC), an Athenian aristocrat depicted prominently in Plato's dialogues
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Greek statue of a lion killing a tiger…
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~This is no mastiff, there are plain as day stripes on the belly of the animal the lion is on.
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Artifact from Rome Italy of a lion defeating a tiger
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^Art Drawn by:
Théodore Géricaul:
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Born in Rouen, France, Géricault was educated in the tradition of English sporting art by Carle Vernet and classical figure composition by Pierre-Narcisse Guérin, a rigorous classicist who disapproved of his student's impulsive temperament yet recognized his talent. Géricault soon left the classroom, choosing to study at the Louvre instead, where (from 1810 to 1815) he copied from paintings by Peter Paul Rubens, Titian, Diego Velázquez, and Rembrandt. During this period at the Louvre he discovered a vitality he found lacking in the prevailing school of Neoclassicism. Much of his time was spent in Versailles, where he found the stables of the palace open to him, and where he gained his knowledge of the anatomy and action of horses.

A trip to Florence, Rome, and Naples (1816–17), prompted in part by the desire to flee from a romantic entanglement with his aunt, ignited a fascination with Michelangelo. Rome itself inspired the preparation of a monumental canvas, the Race of the Barberi Horses, a work of epic composition and abstracted theme that promised to be "entirely without parallel in its time". In the event, Géricault never completed the painting, and returned to France. In 1821, he painted The Derby of Epsom.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Théodore_Géricault

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To the Romans the lion is the King of the beast
http://books.google.com/books?id=b-...a=X&ei=zZsTUOnoFdSpqQGFg4HIAg&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAQ

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Multi-Party Litigation: The Strategic Context
the lion usually always wins

By Wayne V. McIntosh, Cynthia L. Cates
http://books.google.com/books?id=ml...a=X&ei=gsOFUL3vCMnjiAKbtYGoDg&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAA

#23
The Book of Beasts: Being a Translation from a Latin Bestiary of the Twelfth The lion is the mighty of beast
By T. H. White
http://books.google.com/books?id=ih...a=X&ei=WdKFUO3cBIagiQLC14GIDg&ved=0CFcQ6AEwCQ
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Universal Dictionary of Science, Art, Literature, and Practical Mechanics,
Cicero mentions a single lion that won 200 Bestariis
http://books.google.com/books?id=Un...a=X&ei=Y9WFUP3FOaf1iwKQwoDoAw&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAg
~Thomas Curtis T. Tegg, 1829
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~U.S. News & World Report, Volume 130
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lions usually finished off tigers. But not even the ferocious charge of the rhinoceros could penetrate the thick hide of the elephant. The afternoon brought more variety
~U.S. News & World Report, Volume 130
http://www.google.com/search?tbm=bk...could+penetrate+the+hide+of+an+elephant.&btnG
 
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Car: Vroom vroom...C'mon I'm waiting? I thought you were dead on that they had low credability? I added a huge chunk of missing data to it...


#26
Annual Editions: Western Civilization, Volume 1, 13/e, Volume 1
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Nothing was wasted in the ancient world: not an abandoned baby, not the cloth that kept the ragpicker in business... not even the grains of barley in ... wonldjvin, parks of hnnnrk always beat herds of deer, bears withstood bulls, and lions usually finished off tigers.
http://www.google.com/search?q=Annu...inished+off+tigers.&tbm=bks&tbo=1&btnG=Search
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#27A German Archeologist has disphered a Greek remnent that protained to a venatio event of a free for all fight amoungs beast an men, having a lion kill 2 tigers…
Von bubna und littitz

Von wo der larm zu ihm drang, dorthin ritt er schnell,
Auch wenn sein pferd scheute und saumte.
An dem tosenden ort rang ein lowen im duell,
Der sich im kampf gegen zwei tiger aufbaumte

Einem gegen Zwei man helfen musste,
Sprach er, griff flink zur lanze und hehr,
Eh das ungetrum von ihm wusste
Stieb er in einen der tiger den speer

das epos setzt nach den etablierten regeln ahnlich romantischer Ereignisse fort
herman eilt, nachdem er den ersten tiger erlegt hatte, dem lowen im kampf mit dem zweiten tiger zu hilfe, nur dass der lowen in der zwischenzeit den tiger totet und sich aus dankbarkeit, uber und uber mit blut bedeckt, seinem retter zu fuben legt. Bubna wascht und reinigt dessen wunden besteight darauf

By Bubna and Littitz

Where the larm reached him, there he rode quickly,
Even when his horse shied and saumte.
At one place the roaring lions wrestled in the duel,
In the fight against two term aufbaumte

Two against one had any help,
Speech he attacked, nimbly lance and sublime,
Eh the ungetrum he knew
Stieb it into a term of the spear

the epic is similar to the established rules on romantic events
herman hurries after he had killed the first term, the lions in the battle with the second term to help, except that the lions in the meantime kills the tiger and is covered from gratitude, over and over with blood, his savior sets fuben to. Bubna washes and cleans the wounds besteight out
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I'll try an translate it better next time around.
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#28 Italian of Baglugs antiquitys of Rome
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#29 Latin printings of a lion with a death grip on a tiger...
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Reproducted by Edawrd landseer France
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Latin Ring Brooch of a lion defeating a tiger...
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The Gentleman's Magazine
Fight In Italy Verona a lion defeats tiger

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Mr. Bolton said that a friend of his saw, in the circus at Verona, a battle between a lion, and a tiger, a horse, and an ass. The tiger at first shewed symptoms of fear, and wished to decline the battle with the lion. He fought however at last with great fury j but, though he foiled the lion for a time by his alertness, soon yielded on a close contact to the other's matchless strength. The horse was dreadfully terrified from the first, and became an easy conquest. The ass, the last attacked, was all the time quite unconcerned, browzing on the ground, and when at length assailed, bit and kicked with great fury, but in the end fell. The lion chiefly used his paw, with which he struck tremendous blows..
http://books.google.com/books?id=y2...ue+lion+tiger+fight&ie=ISO-8859-1&output=html
~A. Dodd and A. Smith, 1834
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In the amphitheater of Caerleon lions an tigers fought an there is a artifact of a lion killing a tiger for a antelope imprinted on a latin greek vase
http://books.google.com/books?id=ig...a=X&ei=kaePULmoDYGIiwK794HYAw&ved=0CCAQ6AEwAw
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#33
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A TIGER roaming for his prey,
Sprang on a traveller in the way;
A lion came to claim the prize
And soon the greedy tiger dies.
The man then knelt, his life to crave;
His life the lion hero gave,
And him bespoke,—" You saw the fight
And must confess my power and might,
Within these woods I reign alone,
All other beasts my sway must own."
"True," said the man, "the strength 1 saw, All kinds of beasts full well might awe,
~Aesop (pronounced /?i¢?s?p/ EE-sop, Ancient Greek: Éü?ɖÉ÷<pi>ÉÕV, Aisÿpos, c. 620–564 BC)
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Blackwood's Edinburgh magazine, Volume 27
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No body doubted his courage in the ancient world and the romans thought him a brave and noble animal…in amphitheaters he always fought with style that gave credit to the desert…a tiger run an flees before the lion
http://books.google.com/books?id=Bx...a=X&ei=w-7dUMb8LYj-igKB9oH4DQ&ved=0CFQQ6AEwCA
~W. Blackwood & Sons, 1830

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"I have seen no fiercer beast than yon lion, even in the amphitheatre of Rome,"
http://books.google.com/books?id=DO...a=X&ei=Od0GUf2DKaK6igLx7YGYDQ&ved=0CCMQ6AEwBA
The works of Edward Lytton Bulwer, esq. in two volumes, Volume 1
E. L. Carey and A. Hart, 1836
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A Tiger, roaming for his prey,
Sprung on a Traveller in the way;
The prostrate game a lion spies,
And on the greedy tyrant flies:
With mingled roar resounds the wood,
Their teeth, their claws, distil with blood;
Till, vanquished by the Lion's strength,
The striped foe extends his length.
The Man besought the shaggy lord,
And on his knees for life implor'd:
His life the generous hero gave.
Together walking to his cave,
The Lion thus bespoke his guest:
'What hardy beast shall dare contest My matchless strength? you saw the fight, And must attest my pow'r and right. Fore'd to forego their native home, My starving slaves at distance roam.
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Drawn by:

Richard westall

At this time it was not uncommon to find Italian engravers working in England. The famous stipple engraver, Francesco Bartolozzi (Venice, 1727 - London, 1815) moved to London in 1764 and not long after established a large and influential school with many English and Italian followers, which continued into the early decades of the nineteenth century.
* It is not known which London publisher commissioned This engraving entitled, Welch Peasants. What is known is that it is one of a set of three dealing with the rustic life of Scotland, Wales and Ireland. Each was engraved by Giuseppe Bortignoni and designed by Richard Westall. The engravings were hand-coloured at the time of publication.
Richard Westall: Some of the finest British engravings from the late eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries were designed by Richard Westall. After attending the Royal Academy schools in London (1785), Richard Westall devoted himself to history and landscape subjects. He was an early practitioner of the watercolour medium and many publishers of illustrated books soon sought his designs for publication of illustrated editions of Gray, Moore, Crabbe and other poets of the day.
http://www.artoftheprint.com/artistpages/bortignoni_giuseppe_welchpeasants.htm

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Proof that all the historical documentations are translated from Greek and Roman Authors
~Works of the British poets: Including translations from the Greek and Roman authors
John Sharpe, 1828
http://books.google.com/books?id=UI...a=X&ei=3uAGUc6eF8WUjAKem4BY&ved=0CEEQ6AEwBDgK
http://bks3.books.google.com/books?...1tPq1j4DMlDYdMABpKUAEsqKureJ_Cgz7oNPl9EoPew-8
 
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Pft, looks like we got our selve's a sqeeker. But if you do decide to bring some more goodies, uhh? Try to comprehend there credability an read them first...before making your self out to be dumber than a dummie. lol

Whaw...well...I'm pretty tired, I think I'll go home now.
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Asta la waygo mucha cho's

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Pft, looks like we got our selve's a sqeeker. But if you do decide to bring some more goodies, uhh? Try to comprehend there credability an read them first...before making your self out to be dumber than a dummie. lol

Whaw...well...I'm pretty tired, I think I'll go home now.
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Asta la waygo mucha cho's

^_^

WTF is a "sqeeker"? :confused:
 

Silver Prime

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Holy crap! I was just about to log off an Bam! This just poped up...a lion killing a tiger artifact...
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http://www.etsy.com/listing/114467515/vintage-asian-genuine-green-turquoise?image_id=393350297

Phew!!! That made my night, another one to add to the archive, wow an the last second too! XD XD

Oh an Btw, I spelled it wrong its more like Sqweeker, you know...like when someone talks crap an calls someone out, yet the one who gets called out shuts up the big mouth by answering back with cause an effect.

Okay well, heading out now..awesome last minute find. ^_^
 
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